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EwoksSuck
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I don't wish to stir up the pot but in two posts on this forum I have been accused of being a homophobe because of a comment I made to RC on SWC.

I admit that I called RC Little Gay Ray. It was an insult toawrds him and does not reflect my opinions towards gays in general. I have gay friends. And Hell I don't even know if RC is gay. But My attack on him came only after he had posted 20 or more posts making peronal jabs and attacks on me And Silky all over nightly. Was I wrong to lose it and say that? Yes. But if you were in the same situation would you not be at least tempted to attack back? I never claimed to be perfect. I lose my cool sometimes too. For that I apologize. But don't take my comments out of context and try to play RC as an innocent victim. If you are going to start trouble you better be ready for the consequences. I promise you if RC keeps his smart ass comments to himself I will not say a word to him. Thank you. JA/DP I know you are going to close this and I don't blame you. But I don't think I can just sit back and say nothing while people take pot shots at me and try to spin this into me picking on poor little RC. Cause that is bull**** and we all know it.

P.S.

I edited that post before GK/RC or anybody else ever said anything to me. I realized I lost it after I posted it. They must have saw it while I was editing it. Also JA did tell me not to say that kind of thing again on here. So all you conspiracy theorist that Think Silky & I have the admins eating out of our hands have one less piece of evidence to to fuel your kooky paraniod ideas. GK and Justice William Quinn are posting this crap on here to stir up trouble and make me look bad. GK even posted his while I was banned for 48 hours over the swearing thread and he knew I could not reply. Talk about cheap shots.

[ 06-22-2001: Message edited by: EwoksSuck ]

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quote:
Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
GK even posted his while I was banned for 48 hours over the swearing thread and he knew I could not reply. Talk about cheap shots.

Well duh! I had the same thing happening while I was on 48 hour probabtion, and I really had to tie my hands behind my back NOT to come on these boards with one of my aliases and defend myself!
So that's not a unique situation just foir you.

Anyways - I do deplore that an important subject matter was taken over by accusations about the shortcomings of one individual! For that matter it was good that JA closed Walt's thread about the prevelant homophobia on NN.

However - like Walt or not, he brought up a valid point, and if the discussion could go on here, or on some other board, about THAT point and NOT individuals, that would be much welcomed!

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Jacen
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I would just like to comment that when I discussed this topic with walt before hand, I told him that I was sure you weeally trying to gay bash. To credit walt, he told me he felt the same way and that he just felt that this topic felt like it needed to brought to attention.


That is all I shall say publicly.

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Hey, did anyone else not know that w hore was censored?

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EwoksSuck
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quote:
Originally posted by Lost in Coruscant:
Hey, did anyone else not know that w hore was censored?

No. But when I saw that you had replied I figured you had told me to shut up Sassy.

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Lost in Coruscant
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Shuttup Suck.

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General Kenobi
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quote:
Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
I don't wish to stir up the pot but in two posts on this forum I have been accused of being a homophobe because of a comment I made to RC on SWC.

I don't recall anyone saying that. I believe you were accused of making remarks offensive to homosexuals. There is a difference.

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Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
I admit that I called RC Little Gay Ray. It was an insult toawrds him and does not reflect my opinions towards gays in general. I have gay friends. And Hell I don't even know if RC is gay.

And if you learned to read you would see the point that using a term such as gay as a way to insult someone, whether they are gay or not, is offensive to the group to which that term naturally applies.

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Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
Was I wrong to lose it and say that? Yes. But if you were in the same situation would you not be at least tempted to attack back?

Nobody has suggested that you can't defend yourself. Furthermore, as I said 15 times in the other thread where I was allegedly singling you out (even though I posted specific comments about at least one other person) it wasn't about you but the problem in general.

If you want to fight back, then do it. By why do you have to bring gays into the equation? You claim not to have any problem with homosexuals, but then why do you consider "fighting back" to be to call someone gay? Your logic fails you here ES.

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Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
But don't take my comments out of context and try to play RC as an innocent victim.

Again, we did everything possible to remove the message from the messenger. Because RC annoys you it's okay to attack him and degrade homosexuals? How does that work?

You keep missing the point here ES. As usual it's all a vast conspiracy to degrade you and Silky to you and Silky. Wake up. That's not what this was about.

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Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
If you are going to start trouble you better be ready for the consequences. I promise you if RC keeps his smart ass comments to himself I will not say a word to him.

He's not going to and you know it. So I guess that gives you free license to call him Gay Ray again, eh?

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Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
GK and Justice William Quinn are posting this crap on here to stir up trouble and make me look bad.

He posted about comments you admit to making and didn't take them out of context. If anyone makes you look bad, my boy, it's you...

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Originally posted by EwoksSuck:
GK even posted his while I was banned for 48 hours over the swearing thread and he knew I could not reply. Talk about cheap shots.

My problem was with what you said. It was the same problem JWQ brought up. For the last time, it's not just about you. Everything doesn't revolve around you. I raised an issue that needed raising to my thinking. It's not my fault you were banned at the time for violating other TOS. I'm supposed to wait for you to get back until I raise an issue that only laterally has anything to do with you so that you can cloud the issue and make it some big conspiracy to discredit you and Silky? Come on ES...

Wise up.

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General Kenobi
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Oh, and lest I be accused of taking poor ES out of context again, here's the original thread in which his comment was made:
http://www.nightly.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=14&t=009103

Really required calling him Little Gay Ray...

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EwoksSuck
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GK Why don't you show them all the other posts you and RC posted that night? That was the context to which I was refering. Not just that particualr thread. GK you can play innocent all you like. All I know is that half the time RC posts one of his jabs there you are backing him up five minutes later. I have asked you time and time again to just ignore us and we will do the same. But you take every opportunity to belittle the both of us. I don't like you. You don't like me. Nothing is going to change that. So please keep your thoughts about me to yourself and I will keep mine to myself. You act like you are above attacking someone on here. But we both know that's not quite true. Yes my comment was wrong and I admitted it. Something you and RC seem to never do. I admit it takes two to fight and I am more than willing to let all this go if you will just leave us the hell alone. But you can sit there all holier than thou and act like you never made a comment you had second thoughts about it but I know differently..... http://www.nightly.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=55&t=000612 I wonder what you said in there. It doesn't matter. Because I could really care less what you think. It is this ongoing pissing contest you and RC keep trying to draw me into. i am sick of your games. I know damn well that everything does not revolve around me. You are the one who is always accusing me and Silky of controlling Nightly. You are the one who needs to question his logic.

As for my use of the word gay in hurtful manner I apologize. But RC's comments to Silky are just as hurtful. What does it matter if it a comment hurts one person or a Million. It's still wrong. I admit that. But maybe you and RC should practice what you preach before you come on here to spin the crap you and he started with your comments.

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General Kenobi
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And if my comments or Walt's comments or anyone else's had been designed to say that RC never does anything wrong you would have a point. But they weren't. RC hates Walt in fact... Like RC hates any number of people. But again, you have tried to turn the object of this discussion into some pity party for you two...

As to what I said on that thread, none of it was calling you or Silky names. I was simply pointing out the reality that people who put themselves in the public eye, and put their personal lives in the public eye intentionally don't really have control over what the public does with that information. But I decided not to get into it with you... Just like I don't really want to be in this with you now, as my original post and the posts in JWQ's thread attested, my point was regarding the issue, not you. And as much as you want to make it about you, and it's clear that you do by this persecution complex you've got going, I won't let you.

I do think it's nice that you apologized for the use of the term. Now if we can simply get everyone else on NN not to employ similar tactics then the entire purpose of this discussion and JWQ's thread will have been met with satisfaction... but that's not yet the case.

So while you continue to whine after you've attacked people that they are mean to you, I will be continueing to try to make Nightly a better place with anyone and everyone who wants a similar goal. Thanks ES.

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okay, you two can continue this over PM or email if you wish.

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