Topic: Can we possibly maby please have html turned on in the photo album??
D-Ray Kenobi
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For a lot of us lately, our web hosts have been turning off remote viewing of images and that is really posing a problem for us if we want to post an image here for everyone to see.
Just wondering....if I asked really nicely, could we maby have html turned on in the photo album please?
That way we could display whole web pages with the pictures we wanna show off with that option that lets you show an entire web page. If you'd like, I'd even do sort of a mini-tutorial for how to make a simple html page just for pics.
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Web page tutorial is in the Comp and Tech forum, where HTML is always on, 24/7.
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Hmm, yes, it would help in the Photo Album and I think it is a good idea. Although, I don't expect it to be turned on in Photo Album. It might be though, a person never can tell.
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That's a good idea. But you know what I do? Use PNGs. Current and recent versions of Netscape, IE, and Opera support the viewing of PNG images. The reason why this works: Hosts do not recognize the PNG file format, it is foreign to them. Therefore, they cannot block it when it is viewed off-site. Hehe, evil am I.
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You don't really need HTML enabled in the Photo Album to do this. The only difference would be you'd click a link to view the webpage instead of having it displayed via an iframe (which Netscape browsers don't support, I believe).
Are people too lazy to click a link? Do you really have to have a webpage embedded into your post? Nah.
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Yousa pointy well seen. Mesa neber realized dat. Ooh, at least Neta-scape 6 can view inline framesa.
Well, we could enable HTML, but make it mandatory to put a link betweent the <ifrmae> and </iframe> tags (overrides them incase of browser incompatibility). That would work.
Either way, the Photo Album is a worthwhile place to enable HTML. It might get out of hand in places like the Cantina, but the Photo Album would make good use of it.
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That doesn't make too much sense; you're the one asking for it to be turned on. But, your argument was inline frames, my response:
quote:Originally posted by The Jedi Apprentice: You don't really need HTML enabled in the Photo Album to do this. The only difference would be you'd click a link to view the webpage instead of having it displayed via an iframe (which Netscape browsers don't support, I believe).
Are people too lazy to click a link? Do you really have to have a webpage embedded into your post? Nah.
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D-Ray Kenobi
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Don't you understand? That way, if you decide to do that, people who have web servers who allow remote viewing will be able to show thier pics on the actual page, while those of us who don't can't.
And needless to say that isn't fair to those of us who are unable to do what others can.
If nothing else, at least allow i-frames. This is a good way to settle this. There has been no one who has said that it isn't a good idea.
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No, don't you understand? All iframes will do is allow people to embed webpages into their posts. This will increase the amount of time to load the page, since the web browser will be calling two webpages. And what's the point of it? Just so people don't have to go out of their way to click a hyperlink that will take them to the same exact page?
I can embed that webpage into my post using an iframe. Or I can create a click to that webpage and display it in my post. It has the same effect. Only one will cause the page to load much slower. So, the answer is a definite no, unless you can come up with a better reason.
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Teeheeehee, it's funny watching D-Ray and JA argue.
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D-Ray Kenobi
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I can think of many reasons. If html was enabled in the PA...
...you would be able to add alt tags to pics. ...you would be able to resize pics. ...you would be able to add borders to them. ...you could make links out of them.
..I could go on,...there are a ton of other possibilities, iframes aren't the only pro there would be.
JA, I have another question. If you think that iframes are such of a bandwith-hog and make pages load so slowly, why are they enabled in the computers & technology board?
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D-Ray Kenobi
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JA, I assume that you are considering it because you are taking so long to reply.
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quote:Originally posted by D-Ray Kenobi: JA, I assume that you are considering it because you are taking so long to reply.
That's correct. JA lives in a small wooden shack with no doors or windows, no TV or radio, no bathroom or bed, no outside world or extracurricular activities. Just him, four solid walls, one 'Net-linked computer, and twenty-four hours of each and every day. The only time he doesn't reply to each and every post written to him is when he's giving it serious consideration.
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HTML is turned on in the computers for so people can help others learn it. It was turned on way back when that forum was called "Computers and the Internet."
quote:Originally posted by D-Ray Kenobi: ...you would be able to add alt tags to pics. ...you would be able to resize pics. ...you would be able to add borders to them. ...you could make links out of them.
Those are just petty bells and whistles. Do you really need them to post your pics? Oh and you can make images links using UBB code.
And why are you so persistent? I doubt HTML means that much to you. Do you plan to fight this until hell freezes over. What's the big deal?
Oh and numbersix, don't knock my shack. My shack kicks ass. And no, I won't marry you.
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D-Ray Kenobi
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No, JA.
I asked very nicely and made a point of doing so. But yet you continue to have an attitude about the whole thing and continue to be persistant in not even considering the advantages of having html in the PA.
A few other advantages that aren't necessarily "bells and whistles".
-Really nice tables could be made to hold pics in so that two or three could be on one row
-While you may have just looked at the alt tag as just a bell or whistle, it's actually a pretty nice feature. Say, instead of putting a caption under the pic, you could do it by putting the mouse over the pic for a second. (also nice for a few jokes too )
-Sometimes we get to use one of our friends cool digital cameras which might take a picture a little bigger than we would like and it wouldnt fit on the board. If html was enabled, we could easily resize them so that they would fit. I see no other way of doing something like that without html.
It's no big deal to me if you never do it, although it would be pretty cool if you actually did. Of course not just to me, but to everyone who likes going in to the PA from time to time. But have you considered whether or not other people would like it or find it usefull too? I've listed many advantages to having it enabled, but I have yet to see anyone list any disadvantages of it at all, so what is the big deal?
Also, you didn't answer my other question so I guess you are trying to advoid it,...if you don't like iframes, why did you enable them in C&T? And why is html STILL on in the C&T forum if you are implying that it doesn't have anything to do with the internet anymore? You aren't making sense.
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O.K., I agree with half of D-Ray's and half of JA's post.
First of all, for the reasons D-Ray mentioned, HTML would be a more useful feature. Another thing I would like to mention is that members acknowledge the fact that there will be a download factor when they go to the Photo Album. Therefore, most people probably wouldn't mind. It's just convenience.
Also, putting I-frames instead of links does not slow down speed compared to standard images. An HTML document is only a few kilobytes. Most members here who show off their images by way of links have them on very, veeery simple HTML pages. No offense, but that's fact.
What I'm saying is, the download of an iframe will take only slightly more (perhaps no noticable difference) than downloading images.
HTML would be useful. That's what I'm saying. The answer to the question "Why?" is because we asked. But it wouldn't harm the board, that's what I just explained.
However, I still agree with JA 50% about the HTML in the C & T board. JA never said that board no longer had to do with the Internet, D-Ray. The title was just changed to accomodate technology in general.
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D-Ray, you're really going off the deep end lately, huh? Just because you asked nicely doesn't mean JA is going to agree. And just because he doesn't agree doesn't mean he's getting an attitude.
Didn't we already go through this with that evil tyrant Mandard?
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D-Ray Kenobi
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All I have done is come up with a suggestion for the boards, and it a good idea. And apparently, I am not the only one who thinks so.
I have no clue why JA is obviously trying to ignore the issue,..perhaps he is trying to send a message to me. I don't know what that could be though. If he is the one that runs the boards, he should be open to new ideas and suggestions, and not just shoot them down without the slightest bit consideration.
The idea to have html in the PA is a good one. JA refuses to simply enable it. It would cause no problem whatsoever, and the pro's far outweigh the cons,...because as far as I know, there are no cons.
Perhaps he thinks he can ignore it and I will forget it.
Sorry, I won't do that.
Perhaps he thinks he's trying to send a message to me that I am not above the system.
I realize that, but as an active member of the community I can suggest things as I please, and I did that by starting this thread.
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Dude, honestly, just drop it. He said no, which means he's thought about it and not just made a frivolous choice...and he doesn't have anything against you; why would he? Just because he didn't accept your choice doesn't mean he hates you--and just because you think it's a good idea doesn't necessarily mean it's beneficial for the board as a whole. People get their ideas rejected all the time...don't take it personally.
quote:I have no clue why JA is obviously trying to ignore the issue.
What, are you kidding?? You gotten five replies out of JA on this topic. That's gotta be close to a record.
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D-Ray Kenobi
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He said he would not enable html if I didn't have other reasons besides iframes to support my idea.
I gave him other reasons...even ones besides "bells and whistles", and he has yet to reply to the reply that he wanted from me.
If he would only give me a reasonable explanation for saying no, I would simply drop it.
quote:JA: D-Ray wants HTML turned on in the Photo Album. I don't think it's a good idea. You? DP: Nope. JA: Great, glad we agree
Can I give you specific reasons? No, I don't have any. You bring up some good points, I'll give you that. But DP and I feel that HTML is not needed in the photo album, and that the ability to post pictures will not be greatly enhanced by enabling HTML.
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