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How about Temporaly changing Nightly's colors in feedback and main board to a read white and blue type deal. and how about a little american flag insted of the moon on the nightly banner?
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That sounds like a great idea. Heck, if that's too difficult maybe just an American Flag banner somewhere.
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Honestly, that might not be a good idea. I know a lot of members from outside the US are already overwhelmed by the activity in the community forums, particularly the Cantina. It really is dominating all discussion. And, not everyone entirely supports the USA's policies regarding all of this, which is entirely their right.
Let's not stir this up more than we have to. Put a little US flag on your own computer to achieve the same effect.
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Hey, I'm from Australia, but I say go ahead and do it, more than happy to see the board decked out in red, white and blue and your flag on the banner. At the very least have some small tribute, even if only at the bottom of the page.
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I doubt they'll do it, but regardless of that, some comments strike me as odd. First off, "blind patriotism"? I guess I don't understand that phrase. Secondly, last time I checked Australia, the UK, France, the Netherlands and many many other nations have red, white, and blue as their flag's colors... But let's be honest, it would be for the US. However, what's wrong with that? Not only are the majority of the people on this board from the United States, but the owner and the Administrators are from the US. I mean, I don't get it... I could understand your complaints about not having Moderators chosen from among non-Americans, but I agreed with that because of when the would likely be on to monitor the board, thus potentially being effective 24-hours a day... I didn't really consider it either a slap in the face to other countries or a particular victory for America for Nightly's Moderators to be American... That's just plain stupidity. But that stupidity is doubly exemplified in suggesting that because Nightly doesn't contain 100% Americans that a pro-American, anti-terrorist sentiment would somehow degrade you foreigners or your countries. Nobody suggested that employing red, white, and blue would somehow make the Germans less adequate human beings or their country and countrymen less welcome at Nightly. Whether this was a good idea or not, and I'm not saying whether it is either way, the simple fact is that it wasn't about nationalism as much as it was humanism... Something I get the feeling some people just can't see. This attack wasn't just on the United States and its people but on the free world. I'm going to stop now before I get myself banned for being pissed at this idiocy.
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I agree with GK here. Let's face it, it was an American city that was attacked, and American citizens that were killed. If terrorists coldcocked Britain, I would have no problem with Nightly offering some tribute (such as the British flag somewhere on this site) because in the end, even though we would memorializing citizens from a particular country, we must remember, they are human beings first. In this case, we were bombed because this is America.
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quote:Originally posted by The Chosen One: I agree with GK here. Let's face it, it was an American city that was attacked, and American citizens that were killed.
This wasn't the American Trade Center, it was the World Trade Center.
I'm not sure the exact figure, but well over 100 British citizens were killed. As well as citizens from other countries.
This was a tragedy for Britain as well as us.
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This wasn't the American Trade Center, it was the World Trade Center.
I'm not sure the exact figure, but well over 100 British citizens were killed. As well as citizens from other countries.
This was a tragedy for Britain as well as us.
Yeah.
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Then by all means, a tribute to all those that died. But you have to admit, whatever you want to call it, the Trade Center is in New York City which is the most well known city in the United States of America. I am not saying that only American born citizens were affected. But this was on US turf. The whole point of that attack was to hurt the US.
P.S. Of course it is called the World Trade Center. They do international business there. But make no mistake, The World Trade Center is a staple of NYC as is the Statue of Liberty and The Empire State Building. Well, now it's just the Statue of Liberty and The Empire State Building.
quote:Originally posted by The Chosen One: I agree with GK here. Let's face it, it was an American city that was attacked, and American citizens that were killed.
- 3 Australians confirmed dead - Over 90 still unaccounted for
Just tread carefully my friend
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What they have up there now is fine, other than the strange line break it has in it... That's a bit odd, but otherwise it's fine
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- 3 Australians confirmed dead - Over 90 still unaccounted for
Just tread carefully my friend
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There is no need to be sensitive about it. Perhaps you are reading to much into what I have said. Take it for what it is. I in no way am trivializing anyone's death here. The point is, this was an attack on America. Unfortunately there were non Americans who were killed too. That is just as sad. All I am saying is that the original intent was to attack America. Again, see it for what it is. Try not to read into it more than that.
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The terrorists' target were Americans, yes, but as has been pointed out, other countries lost citizens, too. So it doesn't matter what the original target was, because Britain, Germany, Australia, Mexico, Switzerland, etc, all lost people, too. If other countries don't want to support us, fine, but it's as much of a slap in the face to the people they lost as it is to us.
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quote:Originally posted by The Chosen One: There is no need to be sensitive about it. Perhaps you are reading to much into what I have said.
I give a subtle reminder that non-Americans are also among the dead. You somehow take that as a direct attack and become defensive about not trivialising death, and I'm the one reading too much into what is said?
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Look, nobody was saying that only America has suffered here. Part of the point here is that everyone has suffered. But the simple fact is that it wouldn't make much sense for them (not that they should) to put all the flags of the world as a commemoration. The United States flag simply would've been a symbol of Nightly's solidarity with the US in a dark hour. It had no selfish intentions of being nationalistic or of saying that America is the only one hurting or injured here, it was simply a show of solidarity. I doubt the UK has suddenly adopted the Star Spangled Banner as its national anthem, but they played that at the changing of the guard. I doubt Libya's Khadaffi meant it when he said that, "Today we are all Americans." But the fact is, that's a pretty common sentiment. It doesn't mean what it says at face value, it means that the world is rallying behind the focus of this attack, but that the focus isn't the only thing hit. The other countries around the world abhor this incident because they can see that it is an attack to the very heart of civilization... So are they really Americans? Not in so many words... But they are Americans in the sense that America was the focus of this attack on everyone and thus showing solidarity with the US would make a grand statement to the world and to the terrorist cowardly scum... It's not about death toll, or 90 Aussies, or 100 Brits, or 4 Nigerians... It's about a feeling and a sense of global unity. But if you guys would rather take offense and think of this as us or the US trying to leverage something over you... I guess you will, but that was never the intention and I think you know that.
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Has anyone ever noticed that the more and more GK talks, the less and less people pay attention to him?
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GK, you really aren't making sense this time...
You actually are starting to sound like you are OPPOSING the display of OUR flag?! (I say our because we are both Americans) What the F is wrong with you.
Let me explain something that perhpaps didn't make it into your think head, GK. OUR COUNTRY WAS ATTACKED LAST WEEK. OUR COUNTRY. Yes, the Attacked the WTC which houses residents of other countries also, but they also attacked OUR PENTAGON, so clearly this was aimed towards the United States if you didn't already notice.
My God, for cryin out loud, OTHER COUNTRIES are even displaying the star spangled banner at half staff at government buildings and the such, and you want to oppose putting on on a dumb pointless message board???!?!?! WHAT THE F**K?!
I mean it is pointless for us to even be posting here, I havnt been around at all during the latter part of the week because I've been donating blood and putting up flags on my home, my car and my friends cars....it is TIME FOR AMERICANS TO PULL TOGETHER, and the flag says that,...just that...and much more without words, and you don't wanna put it on here?!
But GK, he's half-right. You don't make sense sometimes. "I'm going to stop before I get banned." Ditto. Why do you get worked up and write super-long posts and get riled up every time someone says something? It's like this.
SOMEBODY: Hi GK. I think horsefish are stupid. (OK, bad example, but I had my social studies textbook open. )
GK: I don't mean to be rude, but that is just f***ed up man! I mean, how can you even god damn say such a thing! Geez, what's wrong with you? Horsefish didn't do a damn thing to you! They're probably smarter than you! (Goes on for a page...)
I'm not trying to be mean, please don't read into it too much, I'm just saying, don't get so worked up every time.
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Firstly, it doesn't really concern me if D-Ray is confused, he's always confused. I was, in fact, in support of putting the flag on and I don't think any of my comments suggested otherwise. Sorry if you can't read english well enough to figure out what I'm saying.
Secondly, I don't think I attacked anyone in this thread. Thirdly, when I make a comment about something, I don't generally do it from an emotional standpoint. If you read what I wrote in this thread or in any other thread you will always find reasons for my opinion being what it is. If that offends or frightens or annoys you guys, too bad. If you think my comments are too long, sorry. This is how I write. You are annoyed at my comments being long, I'm annoyed by people who post only smilies... but to each their own. I'm not trying to say any of you are wrong, I'm just stating my opinion on this and on anything else I post on.
However, I guess one thing does strike me as odd... How did this suddenly become about my responses, their length, and the degree to which they confuse D-Ray? I wasn't even disagreeing with him. Perhaps it was that my responses are too long for him to actually read and thus jumped to the conclusion of what I was saying erroneously, but the simple reality is that he was wrong. My fault? I doubt it.
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You guys will have to work things out elsewhere.
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