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Then why are moderators allowed to go in a edit posts? I can understand editing certain words that aren't allowed (swears that the automatic censor doesn't catch etc.), but why do some moderators go in and change whole sections of text, especially without any kind of explanation or warning? If I understand this correctly, and I own the copyright of posted material, do moderators have the right to change my material?
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Unfortunately, the legal mumbo jumbo that would protect our rights can be disrupted by the acts of the Moderators...
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I don't know how the "copyright" stuff works, but I do know that when you register, you have to agree that your posts can be edited or deleted for any or no reason whatsoever.
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"Copyright" means people can't copy your posts word-for-word, go use them elsewhere, and claim that they wrote those words themselves. It's even more illegal if they make a profit off of it.
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quote:Originally posted by Mandard: I don't know how the "copyright" stuff works, but I do know that when you register, you have to agree that your posts can be edited or deleted for any or no reason whatsoever.
I really love that response... It's one thing for that to technically be true, it's another for the Administrators and Moderators to act accordingly. Message boards operate and exist because of their members. This message board exists not only by the posting but also the money of its members... Given that, I don't really understand why anyone's posts would ever be edited and/or deleted for "no reason whatsoever". Would you like to explain why that would evere be done? And would you then explain why we should ever pay if you guys are going to edit or delete for no reason whatsoever? You see, I have a somewhat personal interest in this matter...
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If the moderator/administrator is in a bad mood, has a grudge against the person, or if the poster has been trolling in another forum that the authority in question has a problem with and doesn't want that person to ever come back into that forum again.
quote:Originally posted by Lost in Coruscant: If the moderator/administrator is in a bad mood, has a grudge against the person, or if the poster has been trolling in another forum that the authority in question has a problem with and doesn't want that person to ever come back into that forum again.
Answer your question?
It sure does... In other words, if the Moderator or Administrator doesn't have the maturity to actually be a good leader they'll act this way and the rules are there to make it legal... Gotcha.
But that raises a question... Why was Styx thrown off his job? Wasn't it within his rights to do what he did?
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I never said that we should delete posts for no reason whatsoever, I was just pointing out that we can. The only reason I brought it up was because rufus was wondering what gave the moderators the right to edit posts.
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quote:Originally posted by Mandard: I never said that we should delete posts for no reason whatsoever, I was just pointing out that we can.
So you can for no reason whatsoever and we have to like it or at least live with it... So I ask again... Why was Styx hammered for doing exactly that then?
You see, you're going to get yourself into a box you can't get out of by suggesting that deletion or editing for no reason can and will happen. It's one thing to say that a Moderator or Administrator has discretion on what gets deleted and/or edited, but that's operating under the assumption that the Moderator or Administrator has a valid reason for doing so... Being in a bad mood, not liking the person, or any such frivolous reasoning doesn't cut it for me, and I bet doesn't cut it for a lot of people.
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It is copyrighted and is 'yours' unless it violates the overseers or 'moderators and admins' rules.
Or at least, that is how I see it.
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I think it's just in there to cover all the bases. No it's not an excuse when someone goes nuts. However that rarely happens. The only way to ensure that it doesn't is if if JA is the only admin/moderator. That's not possible. Overall I think things that get edited/deleted are pretty obvious and the poster knows that and is just pushing the limits. The reason why explanations are not always posted is because it would keep the 'trouble', whatever it is, on the board which then defeats the purpose of the edit. If it truely is not obvious, the Mod says "PM me" or the poster can always do it on their own; sometimes the mod PMs them directly without mentioning it on the board. That's my opinion and experience anyway.
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You're not really questioning the styx incident, are you? He was pissed off and decided to delete his entire board. While he may have had the right to do that if he felt it was necessary, the Admnistration also had the right to kick him out if they felt his behavior was unacceptable, which they did. And I can't imagine anybody arguing that styx didn't deserved to be canned after what he did.
I'll agree that the line isn't worded very well. In actual practice, nothing is deleted for "no reason whatsoever". It's not like we go around deleting random posts. But I think the intent is clear: posts can be edited or deleted for any reason even if you believe that there was no reason for it or if you disagree with that reason. Of course we'll try to explain why we did it, but we can't promise that people will always be satisfied. In cases like that, there's not much else you can do but remind the person that this is what they agreed to when they signed up.
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No Mandard, as a matter of fact I'm not really trying to defend Styx... The suggestion of "no reason whatsoever" wasn't mine, it was yours. Now that you aren't seriously suggesting that I don't need to point out an extreme case like that.
You do, however, suggest that the Administrators are willing to tell people why individual posts are deleted and/or edited... I think I'm a big boy and can understand the reasoning if I'm told. I haven't been. No explanation has been offered or suggested, so please... I'm all ears. Why was my post in the thread regarding more money for NN deleted? And before you come back and tell me that JA did it and you don't know, save your effort... Let's just hear from the person who did it.
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Jeez, the way you lot all carry on, making a big deal out of something that hardly matters. We all argeed to the terms and conditions when we registered. Its a universal thing that 'Message poster retains all copyrights of posted messages', and sometimes people just get the urge to write things that should be edited or deleted. If theres no explaination as to why, its usually becasue the reason is pretty obvious. As for the rest of it, why can't common sense provail and be accepted ?
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Freemo, it's GK's nature to take things and blow them out of proportion, thus making everything a "big deal." GK, I'd be happy to discuss the circumstances of your deleted post via Private Message. Just drop me a little note when you're ready.
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Well, okay... I guess I'll PM you the same question I've been asking for days.
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