But it seems to have been closed by the moderator, for very illogical reasoning.
quote:Obviously if we're posting on a ST board, then we either think ST is better or we like them both the same.
I don't think it is so obvious. I ama fan of the sci-fi genre, and post on many sci-fi boards. Now just because I post on the ST board does not mean I like ST more or Equally, nor does posting on the SW make me lean in that direction. My favorite sci-fi series of all time is Battle Star Galactica so any assumption by the moderator are far off. I would have been quite interested in seeing what the community preference was, I love polls, it seems premature to close the poll. And if in fact the moderators assumption was true what harm would it have been to let the poll bear out assumption? thanks.
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quote:Originally posted by Ryn: I've never been a big fan of polls.
As for the ST vs. SW thing, it's a tired debate.
If it is a tired debate, wouldn't it just sink to the bottom? If no one was interested? And if you weren't interested, you wouldn't have to click on it. The topics aren't pop ups forced into your browser.
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Well, that was only my opinion. I'm not the board's mod.
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I appreciate your input, I've thought about the same things you said, it's just nothing seems logical. My only guess, and this is just a guess is that the moderator is one of those obsessive types that if ST would happen to come out on the low percentile of the poll would take that as a slight to ST rather than just being that SW was more popular.
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Well, if I recollect correctly, before polls, there had been threads debating the issue. After polls were added, it briefly flared up again.
If anything, it's the quickest topic to get under a fan's skin. ( )
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I doubt that it was the first sw vs. star trek poll....If the mod left it open the forum regulars would probably start flaming it because it's a tired topic.
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Then those who flame should be dealt with, not the poll? Surely you aren't suggesting the moderator can't control flaming in the forum, if it get's out of control ban the flamers. I'm sure tis board has a general conversation forum where flaming can take place, it has no place in a Star Trek discussion forum.
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I'm behind the mods/admins most of the time as I was one myself and know sometimes it's all just a judgement call... but in this I see no reason why the thread was closed. It seems counterproductive to board growth actually. The topic hasn't been talked about in a while, a new member posts the topic (whether it's an alias / newbie / or troll in hiding makes no nevermind), the thread gets closed illogically, new member feels miffed and doesn't come back and/or new member that is really an alias / troll in hiding complains of the illogical closing and redoubles troll efforts.
Now I'm not saying Stallone is a troll, just covering how I view the basics of the situation as I see it looking it.
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I am not a troll(whatever that may be, doesnt sound flattering) I've just nosed around thus far, the Wrestling Forum ironically enough seems the freindliest and most open to differing views. I just try to get a feel for what passes as postable before I post, but this poll closing really struck me as heavy handed.
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What I find illogical is someone trying to vote on a closed poll.
The poll is staying closed. It's a ST forum, naturally the posters there like ST better or equal. Find a nonbiased boared and ask the same question, then you might have a good debate on your hands.
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I post on the Star Trek board and do not like it better or equal, I like SW better. I think it is petty because I made this complaint you have deleted my poll for a Ferengi series! Is their an owner or super mod I can take this with. I had a simple poll, Do you think the Ferengi should get their own series? It is gone. Why?
Also I think it is very presumtious to think that everyone who posts in that forum like ST better I reconize names from many different forums posting there.
I will try and repost my Ferengi poll again in case it was just a board glitch, but it really seems like revenge for my complaint here.
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Firstly,Id like to know why all my posts were deleted in the Star Trek forum,secondly Id like to know what St and Sw mean?
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I actually agree with Silky's action, if not her reasoning. That type of thread, regardless of intent, will without a doubt degenerate into stupid, pathetic name-calling, and has nothing to do with a debate. A few seconds of searching on the Internet can find countless examples of why this "debate" will never work.
Bottom line: Silky has every right to close the thread. I'm fairly sure that Mandard would do the same thing if someone posted an ST vs. SW thread on Prequels.
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quote:Originally posted by Darth Stallone: I post on the Star Trek board and do not like it better or equal, I like SW better. I think it is petty because I made this complaint you have deleted my poll for a Ferengi series! Is their an owner or super mod I can take this with. I had a simple poll, Do you think the Ferengi should get their own series? It is gone. Why?
Also I think it is very presumtious to think that everyone who posts in that forum like ST better I reconize names from many different forums posting there.
I will try and repost my Ferengi poll again in case it was just a board glitch, but it really seems like revenge for my complaint here.
I vote YEAH to both a MOVIE AND TV SHOW!
Silky HATES Ferengi and anything she doesnt like NEVER gets a fair representation!
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I don't know her(?) but you seem to be on the money from my limited experience here. So I don't seem totally negative, kudos to whoever moderates the wrestling forum, open discussion and debate seems alive and well!
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I'm wholeheartedly against the closing and deletions of those polls. Nothing was wrong with those threads.
The Star Wars v. Star Trek concept is always one I like to talk about and last time the topic came up it end up being a cool 90 or so reply discussion on which could win in a fight.
I didn't get the read the Ferengi thread, so I guess the closing could have been granted if it was against the ToS or regular common sense standards.
Since nothing was wrong with the idea behind the topics I'll go start them up again. Seeing as how this is a "precieved" troll issue. If I start them everything should be fine and dandy... unless a troll then ruins it for everyone.
But anyway, on the experience of only seeingf the ST v. SW thread I can say nothing was wrong with that one and really they shouldn't have been closed. Threads are what you make them. If they weren't breaking any rules then it only causes trouble by closing and locking them.
This attidute is what gets trolls to pick on Silky. It doesn't matter if the handle is assumed to be another troll or not. If the thread is legit. Leave it alone, anything else just brings trouble. I like Silky. I was a mod and respect her numerous decisions... but this one is silly.
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It's a judgement call, Torch. And while they pretend to hide the topics in Star Trek related threads, they turn into anything but. That's why they were deleted. The current frengi poll is still there but it's a sham of a poll and you know it. I just read and voted on yours, it was on topic, and not a pretense as these troll threads are.
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quote:Originally posted by Silky Jinn: It's a judgement call, Torch. And while they pretend to hide the topics in Star Trek related threads, they turn into anything but. That's why they were deleted. The current frengi poll is still there but it's a sham of a poll and you know it. I just read and voted on yours, it was on topic, and not a pretense as these troll threads are.
So you are saying it doesnt matter what my topic is about, if I am perceived as a "Troll" it get's deleted? This makes no sense, there is no defense for this, I have been labeled therefore it doesn't matter if I am a "Troll" or not. Alot of hatred built up in this moderator I can see, did Star Trek not teach us that we should reach out to those of differing cultures? How someone could become moderator of a Star Trek forum yet not have a basic understanding of ST's and Gene's dream is beyond me.
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I didn't label you a troll. Your actions did. Post a legit thread and it'll stay open. Simple concept that everyone else seems to follow. *shrug*
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My thred was should the Ferengi get their own series? this is not legitimate?
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But it seems to have been closed by the moderator, for very illogical reasoning.
I don't see any wrong with such a thread. And it looks as if another Star Trek/Star Wars poll has been started, including more quesitons. There you go.
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