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son of lucas
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to a moderator consistantly abusing his power

Mandard you've consitantly allowed this guy to get away with being a horrendous moderator...DO NOT TURN THIS BACK ON ME!

this is not about me

[ 07-02-2002, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: son of lucas ]

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well, when you start whining and yelling like this, it sort of becomes about you...
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listen dude...I was pissed at the time.

take the anger to mean something instead playing all high and mighty

there's a moderator at nightly.net who deletes posts for no other reason than because it disagrees with him

it took me 15-20 minutes to write that post that included almost nothing but facts...that's something to be upset about

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Dude, I went through the thread that you're talking about, and it all started when you posted:

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Originally posted by son of lucas
the better line-up might be somewhat debatable

but there's no doubt that nintendo has the more markatable line-up (or must i again remind you that the entire gaming public's name is not Bryce?)

btw...in case you haven't noticed project ego's not coming out this year

So stop posting about getting Bryce demoted. You started it, so deal with it.
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i started WHAT exactly?

that post is completely normal!

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Simply don’t harass members (myself included) and there will be no problems. I try to delete any post where someone calling names or starting a flame war. All I have to say if you don’t like that you are free not to post in that board. It’s pretty much that simple.

[ 07-03-2002, 12:01 AM: Message edited by: Jedi Master Bryce ]

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Okay then. If we're talking ideally, I prefer to be contacted through PM, AIM or e-mail. I like people to make it short and simple. I usually don't need long-winded explanations or rants. So in this case, a link to the thread and a calm explanation of what you felt was wrong. No more than a few sentences should have been needed.

To be more specific, it doesn't help at all to yell and scream. It makes it look like you're the problem. A person who's confident that they have a legitimate complaint doesn't need to resort to that. And when it's obvious that you're carrying a severe dislike for the person into your complaint, that also has an effect. It forces me to factor that in as well. How serious a problem is this really? How much is it being affected by their already established dislike of this person? As I've mentioned several times, your attitude makes a huge difference and yours is almost always very poor.

Again, this is not to say that Bryce is completely innocent here. It looks to me like the old problem of two people with opposite opinions, and neither person is content to move on until the other one gives in. Just comes down to stubborness. All it takes is to realize that futilely butting heads against each other is a waste of time and you're all better off by just moving on. I never saw the post in question, so I can't judge it. You may not have felt it was inflammatory, but I know that you have very liberal views on flaming.

[ 07-03-2002, 12:06 AM: Message edited by: Mandard ]

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the post was completely in line with all the other posts in that thread

the gist was my pointing out several facts that supported my argument

there is no way bryce can be allowed to get away with deleting a post just because he doesn't agree with it and it embarrasses him!!!

how can you possibly consider letting him stay after he admits deleting it?!?!

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It embarrassed me? LOL look at what you are doing right now to yourself. True you posted some facts which I admit to, but the way you posted them were not acceptable. If you can learn to makes posts without calling names and trying to degrade members with smart elicit remarks. Your posts wouldn’t be deleted. What is so hard to understand about that?
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YOU LYING SON OF A B!TCH!!!

i'm not going to allow you to get away with this

[ 07-03-2002, 01:47 AM: Message edited by: son of lucas ]

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quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
YOU LYING SON OF A B!TCH!!!

i'm not going to allow you to get away with this

And your revenge against him is to...make your case look worse with each succeeding post?

Fiendish.

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i'm just not going to drop this as i did his previous abuses

this kind of gross abuse of power and then flat out LYING cannot be tolerated

[ 07-03-2002, 01:52 AM: Message edited by: son of lucas ]

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just so everyone knows...i will take this beyond being banned if that's what it takes

i am that serious in my discontent with this gross abuse of power

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quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
i will take this beyond being banned if that's what it takes

dude, what does that mean?

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Hmmm

What exactly did you say SOL?

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it means that i won't let this go and and that mandard will probably ban me (because he seems more interested critiquing my behavior than policing his moderators)

bryce's last post and the great lie that i was doing anything other than arguing my point sealed this

i will come back because anything less than removing bryce is an injustice and it would be morally wrong for me to allow it to stand without vocal dissent

[ 07-03-2002, 02:31 AM: Message edited by: son of lucas ]

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JMB why is that SOL's posts get deleted but you let Xboxwillrule's totally dumb fanboy treads practically making fun of all Gamecube fans and PS2 fans when he first joined. Ill also be the first to admit that me and Willrule had alot of heated arguments... i've called him ignorant before.. he's called me a baby or actually most GC gamers babies... Yet nothing was done on your part. I fail to see how SOL's doings was any different then Willrule's or even mine at times... yet we are unpunished... and so should SOL. From what I hear his reply was pretty tame, nothing bad to it... And what i make of the topic was that he was showing your ignorance on a couple of occasions.

[ 07-03-2002, 02:21 AM: Message edited by: DerrDevil ]

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quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
it means that i won't let this go and and that mandard will probably ban me (because he seems more interested critiquing my behavior than policing his moderators)

i will come back because anything less than removing bryce is an injustice and it would be morally wrong for me to allow it to stand without vocal dissent

Oh No!! Not vocal dissent!!! [Eek!]

[ 07-03-2002, 03:51 AM: Message edited by: Axis ]

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*Pours a bucket of water over SOL's head*

THT is the one who Flame's on [Wink] [Big Grin]

Cool off! [Wink]

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you'd be surprised how cool i am

this is simply the appropriate response to bryce's abuse of power followed by his outright libel comments

now if only mandard would stop being so concerned about me and start worrying about the root of the problem!

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quote:
Originally posted by Mandard:
Okay then. If we're talking ideally, I prefer to be contacted through PM, AIM or e-mail.

this is feedbck...it's appropriate enough (hence its name!)

quote:
I like people to make it short and simple. I usually don't need long-winded explanations or rants. So in this case, a link to the thread and a calm explanation of what you felt was wrong. No more than a few sentences should have been needed.
i'd like for bryce's current and past crimes to be a short list as well

alas...that is impossible

quote:
To be more specific, it doesn't help at all to yell and scream. It makes it look like you're the problem. A person who's confident that they have a legitimate complaint doesn't need to resort to that. And when it's obvious that you're carrying a severe dislike for the person into your complaint, that also has an effect. It forces me to factor that in as well. How serious a problem is this really? How much is it being affected by their already established dislike of this person? As I've mentioned several times, your attitude makes a huge difference and yours is almost always very poor.
the facts are the facts. you've plenty of proof in that thread that he's lying

i wouldn't be so angry if i wasn't sure i was right.

quote:
Again, this is not to say that Bryce is completely innocent here. It looks to me like the old problem of two people with opposite opinions, and neither person is content to move on until the other one gives in. Just comes down to stubborness. All it takes is to realize that futilely butting heads against each other is a waste of time and you're all better off by just moving on. I never saw the post in question, so I can't judge it.
why are you telling this to me? bryce is the one who can't end an argument without getting the last word (and using his powers to make sure he does so)

quote:
You may not have felt it was inflammatory, but I know that you have very liberal views on flaming.
the only place that might've considered that post inflammatory is theforce.net (because they're nuts)

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Oh dear, all this fuss over an irrelevant console wankfest...

Seriously, I don't believe mods should edit posts; it's bloody annoying.

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quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
this is feedbck...it's appropriate enough (hence its name!)

i'd like for bryce's current and past crimes to be a short list as well

alas...that is impossible

the facts are the facts. you've plenty of proof in that thread that he's lying

i wouldn't be so angry if i wasn't sure i was right.

why are you telling this to me? bryce is the one who can't end an argument without getting the last word (and using his powers to make sure he does so)

quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
YOU LYING SON OF A B!TCH!!!

i'm not going to allow you to get away with this

quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
i started WHAT exactly?

that post is completely normal!

Dude, you started the bashing in that thread. You've even continued it over here in the Feedback Foum. How long does it take a person that they can't expect to win a bashing contest with a Mod?? If you have a problem with him, stay away from him. It's that simple. Maybe we could get some sort of Nightly restraining order button so you can't see the other persons post...Your sounding alot more like EY with every post (and I'm not saying or inferring that you are him, just that you are starting to sound like him). The reason why noone is taking you seriously is that you can't go five sentences without bashing someone for not agreeing with you. This thread is evident enough for that point in itself.
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quote:
Dude, you started the bashing in that thread.
what bashing?

what are you talking about? that post you quotes was benign as can be. not a hint of bashing or name-calling in sight on that post!

bryce CAN be stopped...all it takes is for mandard or bryan to realize the extent to which he has abused his power and <poof> he's gone

for now mandard's more worried about my manners for some reason. at the moment his reaction reminds me of the treehouse of terror episode of the simpsons: terror at 8 1/2 feet.

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Bart/Me: See, see I was right. The monster was trying to destroy the bus and I saved us all.

Skinner/Mandard: Regardless young man your behavior was totally disruptive. Perhaps a lifetime in an insane assylum will teach you some manners.

Nelson/GZJ: Haha!

here's hoping he'll get over his "well you didn't calmly tell me in a manner in which you would easily be ignored" because this situation is pretty freaking serious if anyone wants to go so far as to disagree with bryce on the videogames board

[ 07-03-2002, 09:55 AM: Message edited by: son of lucas ]

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So I'm Nelson and you're EY? Hmm, I can live with that, at least my character is mildly popular. [Razz]

And on the matter of bashing and how you started it:
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(or must i again remind you that the entire gaming public's name is not Bryce?)

That right there started it. That is a bash. not a really big and nasty one, but it is one, and it started the thing.
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quote:
Originally posted by CaptainBleh:
Oh dear, all this fuss over an irrelevant console wankfest...

Seriously, I don't believe mods should edit posts; it's bloody annoying.

Well, yes, they should be able to edit posts, for instance when someone posts something that are against Nightly's rules. Like an inappropriate image or something.

And... well... the mods shouldn't abuse their power, whether that is what Bryce did here or not.

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Did you mean to say constantly or consistently or what in the first post within this thread? It sounded like you were in writer's rage.

quote:
Originally posted by son of lucas:
that post is completely normal!

What is normal? Are your abs normal?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ground Zero Jedi:
And on the matter of bashing and how you started it:
quote:
(or must i again remind you that the entire gaming public's name is not Bryce?)

That right there started it. That is a bash. not a really big and nasty one, but it is one, and it started the thing.
that is not a bash. that is a fact

bryce answered the question of how well xbox and nintendo sales would be with his own opinion of the lineups and what specifically he would like

correcting an egocentric reasoning fallacy is in no way a bash!

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