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quote:Originally posted by Darth_Bane: That big swinging thing make you feel uncomfortable?
my kid walked by and saw that and I had to choke him. what else could I do? I couldn't explain what that avatar was doing and still get past St. Peter.
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There is no existing forum where I feel I can engage in discussion about working on my car & asking question about working on cars. Same goes for stuff as home repair & relationships.
Maybe we can just make a forum called "Fixing Stuff." Within the forum, we could discuss the anatomy & complexities of cars, home repair, relationships, and how one goes about repairs & working on these things.
I dunno. Just some thoughts. But in all seriousness, there has enver been a legit place for people (of BOTH sexes) to discuss their feelings on relationships, being cheated on, etc without being blasted. Nor has there been a place to discuss home/auto repair & whatnot.
Those are about the only two things I can think of...
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quote: there has enver been a legit place for people (of BOTH sexes) to discuss their feelings on relationships, being cheated on, etc without being blasted.
Girls have swc
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quote:Originally posted by Grand Admiral Exodus: in all seriousness, there has enver been a legit place for people (of BOTH sexes) to discuss their feelings on relationships, being cheated on, etc without being blasted. Nor has there been a place to discuss home/auto repair & whatnot.
You have valid points however I'd like to point out some things that have sprung to my little brain 1. Do you think that internet geeks are the best places for relationship advice? I'm sure that you have friends in real life and ask them. They know your situation much better then you'll ever be able to explain to us and you can give feedback more quickly. Plus they probably know you much better then we do. 2. I have never seen a thread about auto repair in my two years of geekery. Home repair has a few but nowhere near forum warranting.
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quote:Originally posted by SpiderDave: Do you think that internet geeks are the best places for relationship advice? I'm sure that you have friends in real life and ask them. They know your situation much better then you'll ever be able to explain to us and you can give feedback more quickly. Plus they probably know you much better then we do.
You should know that many people on here don't have real friends.
quote:Originally posted by SpiderDave: Do you think that internet geeks are the best places for relationship advice? I'm sure that you have friends in real life and ask them. They know your situation much better then you'll ever be able to explain to us and you can give feedback more quickly. Plus they probably know you much better then we do.
You should know that many people on here don't have real friends.
Yea like me, all my friends went to college
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quote:Originally posted by Grand Admiral Exodus: in all seriousness, there has enver been a legit place for people (of BOTH sexes) to discuss their feelings on relationships, being cheated on, etc without being blasted. Nor has there been a place to discuss home/auto repair & whatnot.
You have valid points however I'd like to point out some things that have sprung to my little brain 1. Do you think that internet geeks are the best places for relationship advice? I'm sure that you have friends in real life and ask them. They know your situation much better then you'll ever be able to explain to us and you can give feedback more quickly. Plus they probably know you much better then we do.
I think there is the great factor of anonimity. I posted a Relationship type thread here, and got some great responses. I truly did. I have also checked with friends I know, they all said practically the same things as what these 'geeks' said. And it's better sometimes getting advice from people that you dont know/like etc... there is no bias, no bull etc... they seem to tell you just like it is. Whereas you'll find most friends will soften the blow or whatever. There is also the factor that we've literally got thousands of people here, and if willing, we could have hundreds of different points of view on what to do in certain relationship issues, cause a lot of people here are single, or dating, or married, or having babies, or have had babies. There is truly a place for this here, at Nightly. And yes, we do have SWC, but everytime i've seen an outsider try to come in with a thread about their relationship issues, it would always get shut down or turned into a sex bashing thread. If you're not in the clique, you're not in SWC. It would be nice to have a place with no history etc... no one ruling over others etc... a place where you can discuss relationships and whatever you really please.
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i agree with forming a new community forum for the reasons that were stated earlier by jacen and bane. i think that there are many reasons for it and i have not heard any reasons not to do it yet.
by the way, lando is the "guys" forum, so we dont need one of those
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quote:...yes, we do have SWC, but everytime i've seen an outsider try to come in with a thread about their relationship issues, it would always get shut down or turned into a sex bashing thread. If you're not in the clique, you're not in SWC.
I had a real problem w/ that. Nothing personal to those whose threads weren't put on lock-down, but yeah I thought that was really stupid to pick & choose certain ones to stay & certain ones to go, all based on (well, at least in my case) misinterpretation of material in the initial post which was clealry stated as having been in my own personal experience & not a generalization of a particular group (or in this case, gender) overall or in general.
I'd have been better off creating one in the Cantina probably, seeing as Banes thread of a similar topic was left alone & got fair responses in the Cantina. It probably would have gotten shot down if it had tried to take off in SWC territory.
But what Rock once suggested really isn't too bad of an idea - that being, a relationship forum. I mean my relationship is fine, but still, every now & then you need an unbiased opinion (or, sometimes, even advice...it's not that far fetched) of somebody else out there who, like Bane said, won't distort their answer so as to go soft on you.
Either that, or make SWC more open to that type of thing
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I think it might be slightly degrading to ladies to think they all love talking about girly stuff, makeup, and relationships. While it is true that SWC might have been made for the ladies, but it's much more than that. So I don't think we should do that. But that's just my opinion.
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Well if the admins don't care, we guys can put threads up in swc now that silky has stepped down.
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Thinking about it, SWC dosn't have much traffic anyway, it's orgional purpouse (giving a place for women to talk about star wars without being discriminated) was fine, but jedi cool and LIC like star wars, and they aren't affected as far as I know, at least at nightly anyway. It's also a decent place to get advice on releationships since only girls primarilry post there, yet guys aren't allowed to do that, I still think we should have our own forum, or have a forum where both genders can freely do it!
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quote:Originally posted by Stallion: we guys can put threads up in swc now that silky has stepped down.
...so I'm guessing you never stuck around in there long enough to be rewarded with the "HSWC" designation like several among us have done throughout the years, then.
Males have posted in SWC for years. The trick is to do it with a liberal combination of humility, dignity, and self-awareness. The guys who had the most trouble in SWC -- be it from Silky or from us regulars -- typically lacked at least one of those qualities.
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no, when I made a thread, asked a question and was respectfull, she closed it , hence my speech above.
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I've experienced the same thing Six. Been shut down in there for no apparent reason.
When and where? I honestly cant remember, I do, however remember that something was either locked or deleted of mine and it was completly unwarranted. I had plenty of humility, dignity and self-awareness. Sure, a lot of the stuff I post is lacking that, but I always make sure that is in the place it's meant to be.
Lando gets my crudity, The Arena gets my testosterone, the Mods area gets my stupidity. So, when I decided to post something serious in SWC, now that I think about it, it was a reply to someones thread. I made a statement, that was a fact, and people didnt take kindly to it, simply because 'the truth hurt'. Thus, I no longer feel welcome, nor the desire to post there anymore. And I didnt even post something like "Why do girls suck?"
Like Stallion said, the original purpose of the place has very much changed. He makes a good point that girls dont get discriminated here because they like Star Wars. Granted, I havent been in the Prequels area for a while, but it makes no difference on a message board. Just like having racism or sexism on a Message Board... it's redundant. Girls can talk about Star Wars in the Star Wars area... I dont see anyone about to jump on me for saying that. So, if that's the case, then why have SWC? I stand by the comment that there is a lack of community in this Community Forum! Especially when compared to all other community forums.
Now, please dont be taking this as a whole anti-SWC thing, or maybe you should? I dont know, you interpret how you want to. I am just unsure of what this place does. Prequels and Spoilers is for fans that want to talk about Star Wars etc... Both genders welcome! Harry Potter is for discussion about Harry Potter. Sci-Fi is for discussions about Science Fiction! The Lyceum is for those who think they know something about nothing! The Arena is the place to lay the smackdown! Lando is for the rebellious types, posting what they think is crude, rude material. The Cantina is for those who just wanna chill and chat about random topics. The Photo Album is for those who want to be Attention Whores. Mods area is for the 'elite' of Nightly The Feedback Forum is the place to request things, ask about stuff etc... much like this thread. What is Star Wars Chicks for? A safe-haven for girls to talk about Star Wars? Gimme a break. Maybe that was needed years ago, but not now. No way, no how. There is no discrimination here in regards to that. OK, so it's a place for girls, but I dont see any topics about 'that time of the month', 'boys', 'make-up'... whatever girls would generally talk about (yes, very generalised) but you could move all those topics to the Cantina and they would all fit.
Once again, please dont think i'm hating on SWC, i'm just confused as to what purpose it serves. Like I said, a very small Community. Major lack of posting (I have to change my settings to just view the entire front page), I understand it might have sentimental value, and many moons ago it was a booming empire, but for something so apparently great, it is suffering a slow, painful death. I now roll my eyes at the place, cause it's dead in the water. Good luck to Destiny, I truly mean that, cause it's going to be hard to get that place going again, methinks. It took Silky 26,000 posts to get it going and in the end that didnt work. To top it all off, the whole site that's related to the Forum (www.starwarschicks.com) is much like the forum. Dead.
I'm just plain old confused. You have numerous people here liking this idea of a relationship forum/new community forum! And the call goes out, but it's ignored or not answered, whatever you want to call it. There are many people who havent posted here whom I have chatted to on AIM that would dig a forum like this. But, instead you try to breath life into a forum that has passed its expiry date, imho.
Why?
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(sighs) I went so far as to create an alias & try posting a topic asking for advice simply because I thought that somebody had something against me personally. Yeah, remember that..?
It got shut down anyway.
Reason for closing the thread, as explained to me via PM, was because "SWC is not a Dear Abby column."
No, not for some. But for others I guess it is. Or was. I dunno.
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Meanwhile, female members are allowed to make deer abbey threads
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I think that if we are going to be making a new forum for talking about feelings and such, then the community of Nightly would participate, but it couldnt be a community forum. This is because no matter what you begin to discuss in there, say relationships or feelings compared to flavor of the month or something, one of these things will eventually take over. So I would propose putting it in as a community forum, yet be a more specific community such as Photo Album.
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quote:Originally posted by Darth_Bane: Harry Potter is for discussion about Harry Potter.
if only
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quote: When and where? I honestly cant remember, I do, however remember that something was either locked or deleted of mine and it was completly unwarranted. I had plenty of humility, dignity and self-awareness. Sure, a lot of the stuff I post is lacking that, but I always make sure that is in the place it's meant to be.
I've edited you more than once on the Cantina. Pull the other one.
Silky pruned her own locked threads every so often, so I can't really speak to those occurrences without knowing the context...although I do remember GAE's alias incident, and remember approving the lockdown there. Either way, not much we can do about your past experiences.
quote: So, if that's the case, then why have SWC?
The forum has lacked the focus of late for a variety of reasons, and that's something the Admins have discussed at length and plan to confab about further, whether it's the "Star Wars" part or the "Chicks" part that deserves the most scrutiny.
The simplest explanation for SWC's existence, on those days when all the community forums are firing on all cylinders, is that SWC has traditionally been the "safe" community board. Back in "the day", SWC was the one board you could rest assured that everyone checked their guns at the door, as opposed to the Cantina (where everyone checks their guns at the door but tucks away a few switchblades and some pepper spray just in case) and Lando (where patrons fire openly on each other at will). When Silky had the time and the heart to put real effort into it, it was the one board that normal people of all ages (from preteens to mothers of four) with normal sensibilities -- women or men -- could chat openly yet politely with each other without being interrupted by perverts, horny-toads, and trolls. The difference, in short, was in tone. As hard it may be for some of you to believe, we actually have some members who like it that way.
quote: You have numerous people here liking this idea of a relationship forum/new community forum! And the call goes out, but it's ignored or not answered, whatever you want to call it. There are many people who havent posted here whom I have chatted to on AIM that would dig a forum like this.
IMHO, devoting an entire forum just to relationship discussions is a bad idea. Such discussions work better in forums and groups where the members have bonded on a communal level with each other over shared interests and commonalities of varying levels of geekitude. When everyone becomes comfortable with one another, it's been my experience that relationship discussions flow a lot more naturally as a secondary level of bonding between members. Once you hang out for a long time with a lot of folks who dig watching the same movies you do, or place the same actors on a pedestal that you do, or own the same CDs that you do, you'll want to share your opinions on more personal matters, and, more importantly, you'll want to hear others' advice when you need it the most.
But if relationships become the primary focus of the forum...if the only thing that a given set of members have in common is that they all have relationships of some kind...what you got yourself there is the very definition of lowest common denominator. If you'd like an example of where that gets you, feel free to check out one of our more active Lyceum forums sometime.
Bottom line: relationship discussions work best as expressions of a community, not as the basis of a community.
As far as the "new" community forum "idea", the arguments presented thus far seem to be:
1. "But I don't wanna post on the Cantina!" 2. "But I don't wanna post on SWC!" 3. "Lando doesn't count!"
...and that'd about as deep as the arguments have gone, with the possible exception of Jacen's, who doesn't like the fact that Nightly has a history and members who have the gall to perpetuate that history instead of pretending to be newbies every day. I'm neither impressed nor sympathetic.
If there's some large section of the community that's dying to find a safe haven for their personal discussions with each other, then you and all these other theoretical members who allegedly agree with you should simply all converge on one forum or the other and remake it in your image, within the confines of TOS as they apply in that respective forum. It happens all the time. Heck, it's what the Cantina is there for. The Cantina used to be the primary dwelling spot for news threads. Then it became one big AOL teen chat. Then it became Lando Jr. Then it became a demilitarized zone. Then it became humor-intensive. Then it was all about aliases. Then it was all about Salem, Illinois. (Not kidding. If you don't remember it, it's a long story.) Then it was all about people who attended Celebration II. Then it was all about Moderators. Then it was all about Jacen and Joey. Right now it's in a state of flux between states of being, and who knows where it's headed next?
Short version: you don't start none, there won't be none.
quote: instead you try to breath life into a forum that has passed its expiry date, imho.
Why?
Apparently we disagree.
*shrug*
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