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Holy. Ladies and Gents, 24 is back! What a premiere! It also makes a strong impression as probably one of the shows best ever. Martha Logan ( Jean Smart) rocks. She's gonna be a hell of a character to watch...... How freakin awesome was it that Jack made his way to the scene of the crime.. ' start at the beginning' as he said. Don't trust Chloe's new sleeping partner " Spenser' or whatever his name is, i'm getting the feeling he's another mole. And it was clear from Season 4 and from here, that Cummings was up to no good. Also what about Audrey? She's still kinda a suspicious in my book, it was Walt Cummnings who briefed Audrey telling her the focus was 'Security is top concern.' Not Palmer's assassination....
I started to believe a guy like me could get a second chance. Jack
I think David was killed because of something he was about to tell me. Martha Logan
Palmer was my primary target, They only cared about Palmer. The others were just a diversion to set you up, make it look like you did it. Palmer's assassin
Whatever evidence they showed you against me has been fabricated. I served your brother for years. I would gladly give me life for his. He was my friend. Jack
Posts: 55 | From: Auburn, WA | Registered: Feb 2005
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24 has a reverse Star Trek thing going on. All good Trek films are even numbered, all odd numbered 24 seasons are good-- the others not so much!
I loved season 3 of 24, but last year was a big disapointment. But the stuff in the first two hours was pretty hardcore. They amped it up!
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I agree! What a fantastic first two hours! I'm definitely hooked. >:-P~~~~~~~~~~~ I really loved it when Jack busted a cap in the head of Palmer's killer. ROTF As soon as the man admitted to personally pulling the trigger on Palmer, Jack got this look on his face and you KNEW what was going to happen.
By the way, some of the younger 24 fans may not realize this, but Logan's wife is a homage to Martha Mitchell, the wife of Nixon's Attorney General. She was nicknamed the "Mouth of the South" and was as crazy as Martha Logan was depicted last night. And get this, the "Martha Mitchell effect," when a psychiatrist mistakenly diagnoses someone's belief as a delusion, is named after her. Hmmmmmm Sound familar?
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Id be willing to bet he is, it makes too much sense. If he is so scared and all of that why does he so staunchly go against everyones advice when they say to postpone the treaty signing?
Basically my theory is this, Logan doesnt want the treaty signed, but he wants the public to think he wants the treaty signed. So he sets this terror opp up. Palmer finds out, although he doesnt know Logan is involved. Palmer calls Logan, but Logan dismisses it saying that if there was a problem between CTU, FBI etc that they would know. Palmer insists that there is a plot and tells Logan that Jack Bauer is still alive and that he is the one man they should get in touch with to help them out, but Logan still blows Palmer off.
When Palmer persists and calls Mrs Logan, the President needs to act. He has to take Palmer out and now he knows Bauer is alive so he decides to frame Bauer.
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I think he is intent on his wife not ruining his reputation and thinks this treaty with Russia is going to be his legacy, ie he really thinks they will back out if he postpones it. He is blinded by his want for a historical legacy. I highly doubt he is the bad guy...
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ok i watched all of season 4....that i remember......but from what i remember, may be from a different season and im just getting confused but i thought for some reason the last season ended with jack and chase in the school building goin after a bomb and it being attached to chase's are and jack having to chop it off, then jack getting in his jeep crying then getting a call and leaving....and that was the end.....am i crazy or was this real....i watch too many shows to remember everything from all of them
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ok....i remember a lot of season 4 but for some reason i dont remember them fakin his death....i remember the rest of it and i even remeber logan blaming him and wanting him dead but dont remember the rest....hmmmm odd
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Kick ass eps tonight, but I think the ending just now was a little limp. They can't all be "OMG!!!" endings every week so maybe that's all it is. But after a four hour premiere event I was expecting a little more Oooomph at the ending.
Kick ass though. And agreed about Jack getting cooler every year.
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Another great two episodes. I'll agree that the ending fell a bit limp, but that's really just because they showed that damn scene in the preview, so you knew it had to happen. Otherwise, great episodes.
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Just keeps on getting better- the yellow tie man ' sleeper' was obvious as seen from movies such as 'Executive Decesion' and real life events. It's gonna be interesting to see whether Jack brings up the leaking of his name inside the airport to CTU. And I think Mrs. Logan is a step ahead of Mr. Cummings, i think she's using this as a trap to catch him or whoever, remember they did have a good relationship. What else is in Bauer's bag? Could there be another hacksaw?
Posts: 55 | From: Auburn, WA | Registered: Feb 2005
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Did we ever find out what happened to Air Force One? That president was still alive but "incapacitated" so Logan as VP had to be sworn in. Yet, they never said if the president died or was just in acoma.
Anyway, great four-hour premiere!! The main thing i'm wondering is will the Chinese want Jack once they find out he is actually alive. I'm sure his name will get out eventually and the Chinese who wanted him are bound to find out.
Interesting theory Choc; can't imagine Logan is clever enough to hatch a scheme like that but who knows. I hope they don't try to include soooooo many plot points and terrorists actions like last season. Too many things went on that couldn't possibly happen in a 24 hour period. Still some of the best drama on TV!!
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The guy hanging out with the video screens (90's TV Vam,pire detective Nick Knight!) will be the bad gur behind the curtians until mid-season when we find out who he's working for.
Sadly, that bit of 24 has gone the way of a CTU Mole and Kim in danger-- something they just keep doing again and again. The bad guy is ALWAYS some finger tapping grump who makes calls and watches screens. They get close to him mid season, only to find out he works for somebody else!
Onw bit of coolness, i noticed int he credits that Manny Coto is a producer/writer for the show. That is nothing but good news!
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Don't be so sure Tank. Yes, i know that the first few "hours" of the show are pure exposition, however, i suspect that this time there will be NO mole at CTU. Its already been revealed that Kummings the pres. advisor is pulling the strings for the Russians. I hope that's the last mole we'll have to worry about.
The thing that intrigues me is Jack's role in this whole thing. THe guys a civilian yet it looks like everyone is listening to his every word. Looks like rougue Jack is back.
BTW, Who the hell is Manny Coto.?
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Manny Coto is the man that WOULD have saved Star Trek had he gotten the job as show runner of Enterprise before it's final season.
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Yeah, I noticed Manny Coto's billing. He's a good addition for any series.
Also, on the "Buffy watch" front David "They Got the Mustard Out!" Fury is another co-executive producer. He's a pretty good workhorse writer, but nothing special.
And Jeff Kober, who played Rack in Season 6 of Buffy was President Palmer's assassin.
quote:I loved season 3 of 24, but last year was a big disapointment.
Can't say I agree with that. I much preferred last season to the 3rd season.
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Seriously the mole is worn out, you think they would have fixed their background check by now, but thats assuming their is another this season, which I'm not entirely onboard with. I agree with SOL on both of his posts, I liked Season 4 better than 3, and thought the second hour yesterday was pretty weak.
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I need some help. There was a trailer for 24 season five on the night it aired and there was only music in the trailer. I believed it aired on Fox. What i wanted to know is if anyone knew the name of the song that was playing through the trailer?
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it would have been cool if they went for a main plot OTHER than a major terrorist threat. For example, I thought most of this season would be about Jack trying to hide the fact that he's alive, or escaping people who are trying to kill him. Wouldn't that have been better? But oh no, already 4 hours in and everyone knows he's alive.
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THe thing i dread most is that this season will be like last season with one terrorist threat being uncovered by CTU leading right into another more complex and deadly terrorist threat. Didn't really care for that kind of story line hope we don't get more of the same this time.
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