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This excert taken from a webpage and written by David J. Meyer Published By Last Trumpet Miistries
When I saw the release date of this new movie, I was not surprised. December 9th is the 13th day before the witches’ quarter-sabat of Yule. The full cold moon is midway between the release date and the sabat of Yule. The waxing moon is also directly on the equinox on the release date of the movie. This is far too precisely occultic to be coincidental, and the producers of the movie no doubt consulted upper-level witches regarding the perfect day to have the “Chronicles of Narnia” open.
The author of The Chronicles of Narnia, Clive Staples Lewis, was a professor at Oxford University in England where he was supposedly converted to “Christianity” by another Oxford professor named J.R.R. Tolkien. Tolkien and Lewis would often sit together at a local pub or tavern and converse about their beliefs in the creatures and the activities of the middle earth, a strange realm of a little people and magical powers. Tolkien often referred to Lewis as a “reluctant Christian.” Tolkien, though, was a Roman Catholic in doctrine and found his religion to be perfectly compatible with magic and the world of hobbits and elves.
The story of the Narnian Chronicle known as The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is one of clandestine occult mysticism and is not Sunday School material unless your Sunday School is a defacto witch coven. The story involves a child from the normal everyday or mundane world. This girl, Lucy, who hides in a wardrobe as she is playing a game, suddenly finds herself transported to another world very unlike her own. It is a world of intelligent, talking animals and strange creatures. The little girl soon finds herself having tea with a faun. In witchcraft and ancient Roman pagan mythology, a faun is any of a group of rural deities, which have the bodies of men and the horns, ears, tails, and legs of a goat. The Roman god Faunus was also the god of nature and fertility and was connected to sexual lust. Here let it be noted that in the Narnian Chronicle Prince Caspian, this same strange land the little girl finds herself in is also populated by gods and goddesses; such as Bacchus, the god of drunken orgies, and the Maenads, who were frenzied women driven to madness in the orgiastic cult of Bacchus.
The main character of the book is a lion named Aslan, which is the Turkish word for lion. Aslan the lion is the character that “Christian” teachers say is the Christ figure, but witches know him to be Lucifer. The lion, Aslan, appears in all seven of the books of The Chronicles of Narnia. The following are quotes regarding Aslan the lion:
“At the name of Aslan, Lucy got the feeling you get when you wake in the morning and realize it is the beginning of spring.”
“When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death; and when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.”
“He’ll be coming and going; one day you’ll see him and another you won’t.”
“It was a lion, huge, shaggy; and bright it stood facing the rising sun.”
“Aslan swings his head around scattering golden gleams of light as he does so.”
Remember, Aslan the lion is esteemed to be the “Christ figure” by so many “Christian” teachers, but with that in mind, consider the following quotes from The Chronicles of Narnia.
“The crowd and dance round Aslan (for it had become a dance once more) grew so thick and rapid that Lucy was confused. She never saw where certain other people came from who were soon capering among the trees. One was a youth, dressed only in a fawn skin, with vine leaves wreathed in his curly hair. His face would have been almost too pretty for a boy’s, if it had not looked so extremely wild. You felt, as Edmund said when he saw him a few days later, ‘There’s a chap who might do anything, absolutely anything.’ He seemed to have a great many names – Bromios, Bassareus, and the Ram were three of them. There were a lot of girls with him, as wild as he. There was even, unexpectedly, someone on a donkey. And everybody was laughing: and everyone was shouting out, ‘EUAN, EUAN, EU-oi-oi-oi.’”
Those strange words EUAN, EUAN, EU-oi-oi-oi are an ancient witches’ chant used to invoke the power and presence of the god of drunkenness and addiction, who is named Bacchus. But wait, as the story goes on, it gets worse as the witchcraft increases and becomes more obvious. Consider the following: “‘What is it Aslan?’ said Lucy, her eyes dancing and her feet wanting to dance. ‘Come children’, said he. ‘Ride on my back today.’ ‘Oh lovely!’ cried Lucy, and both girls climbed on to the warm golden back as they had done no one knew how many years before. Then the whole party moved off – Aslan leading. Bacchus and his Maenads leaping, rushing and turning somersaults, the beasts brushing round them, and Silenus and his donkey bringing up the rear… Then three or four Red Dwarfs came forward with their tinder boxes and set light to the pile, which first crackled, and then blazed, and finally roared as a woodland bonfire on midsummer night ought to do. And every-one sat down in a wide circle around it. Then Bacchus and Silenus and the Maenads began a dance, far wilder than the dance of the trees, not merely a dance for fun and beauty (though it was that too), but a magic dance of plenty, and where their hands touched, and where their feet fell, the feast came into existence. Sides of roasted meat that filled the grove with delicious smell, and wheaten cakes and oaten cakes…”
The above is clearly a description of a witches’ sabat of Midsummer or the Summer Solstice, and it is described as such in perfect detail. Certainly by now enough is known to denounce this work as satanic and antichrist.
Was Clive Staples Lewis a Christian or a blasphemer? In his book The World’s Last Night and Other Essays on pages 98-99, Lewis said, “Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place… certainly the most embarrassing verse in the Bible.The one exhibition of error and the one confession of ignorance grow side by side. That they stood thus in the mouth of Jesus himself and were not merely placed thus by the reporter, we surely need not doubt… The facts, then, are these: that Jesus professed himself (in some sense) ignorant, and within a moment showed that he really was so.”
Lewis also said in Reflections on the Psalms, page 129, “… as I believe, Christ… fulfilled both paganism and Judaism.” Lewis was also quoted in a biography as follows: “I had some ado to prevent joy and myself from relapsing into paganism in Attica! At Daphni it was hard not to pray to Apollo the Healer. But somehow one didn’t feel it would have been very wrong – would have only been addressing Christ sub-species Apollinis.”
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quote:Originally posted by TruthGladiator: This excert taken from a webpage and written by David J. Meyer Published By Last Trumpet Miistries
When I saw the release date of this new movie, I was not surprised. December 9th is the 13th day before the witches’ quarter-sabat of Yule. The full cold moon is midway between the release date and the sabat of Yule. The waxing moon is also directly on the equinox on the release date of the movie. This is far too precisely occultic to be coincidental, and the producers of the movie no doubt consulted upper-level witches regarding the perfect day to have the “Chronicles of Narnia” open.
Really? Because you say so, huh? Well, I guess that's that, huh.
quote:Tolkien, though, was a Roman Catholic in doctrine and found his religion to be perfectly compatible with magic and the world of hobbits and elves.
Well, Christianity does have a virgin-raping god, a half-god bastard child who does magic, and the whole story culminates with a human sacrifice.
If that's not myth, what the hell is?
quote:The story of the Narnian Chronicle known as The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe is one of clandestine occult mysticism and is not Sunday School material unless your Sunday School is a defacto witch coven. The story involves a child from the normal everyday or mundane world. This girl, Lucy, who hides in a wardrobe as she is playing a game, suddenly finds herself transported to another world very unlike her own. It is a world of intelligent, talking animals and strange creatures. The little girl soon finds herself having tea with a faun. In witchcraft and ancient Roman pagan mythology, a faun is any of a group of rural deities, which have the bodies of men and the horns, ears, tails, and legs of a goat. The Roman god Faunus was also the god of nature and fertility and was connected to sexual lust. Here let it be noted that in the Narnian Chronicle Prince Caspian, this same strange land the little girl finds herself in is also populated by gods and goddesses; such as Bacchus, the god of drunken orgies, and the Maenads, who were frenzied women driven to madness in the orgiastic cult of Bacchus.
Yeah, so? What's the point?
quote:The main character of the book is a lion named Aslan, which is the Turkish word for lion. Aslan the lion is the character that “Christian” teachers say is the Christ figure, but witches know him to be Lucifer.
Hell of a claim you got there! Any evidence for it?
quote:The lion, Aslan, appears in all seven of the books of The Chronicles of Narnia. The following are quotes regarding Aslan the lion:
“At the name of Aslan, Lucy got the feeling you get when you wake in the morning and realize it is the beginning of spring.”
“When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death; and when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.”
“He’ll be coming and going; one day you’ll see him and another you won’t.”
“It was a lion, huge, shaggy; and bright it stood facing the rising sun.”
“Aslan swings his head around scattering golden gleams of light as he does so.”
I find myself lost and looking for a point. Again.
...as a matter of fact, I don't even want to go on.
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"When I saw the release date of this new movie, I was not surprised. December 9th is the 13th day before the witches’ quarter-sabat of Yule. The full cold moon is midway between the release date and the sabat of Yule. The waxing moon is also directly on the equinox on the release date of the movie."
This is one of the funniest passages I've ever read.
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Lol! I know! I just found the original end of that sentence. It read: "...the release date of the movie. Also, it is a Friday, which is when movies are released. So, you know....scary."
quote:Originally posted by Obi-Wan Cannoli: How did the kangaroos get back to Australia when the flood was over? Did they swim? How did they reach the Middle East in the first place?
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My uber-Christian friend loves Narnia. It figures that people will find anything to protest.
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Oh it gets better. The Rev. David J. Meyer prefaced his above comments with this tidbit:
As a former witch, astrologer, and occultist who has been saved by the grace of God, I know that the works of C.S. Lewis are required reading by neophyte witches, especially in the United States and England. This includes The Chronicles of Narnia, because it teaches neophyte, or new witches, the basic mindset of the craft. Isn’t it strange, though, that many “Christian” churches and organizations have used The Chronicles of Narnia as Sunday School curriculum?
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quote:Originally posted by Denman: Oh it gets better. The Rev. David J. Meyer prefaced his above comments with this tidbit:
neophyte witches
That would be a great name for a band.
Also, could someone (Basil?) translate the following mudspeak into English for me:
quote:December 9th is the 13th day before the witches’ quarter-sabat of Yule. The full cold moon is midway between the release date and the sabat of Yule. The waxing moon is also directly on the equinox on the release date of the movie. This is far too precisely occultic to be coincidental, and the producers of the movie no doubt consulted upper-level witches regarding the perfect day to have the “Chronicles of Narnia” open.
WTF does that even mean? The full cold moon? As opposed to the full hot moon? Or perhaps the half-empty lukewarm moon. Far too precisely occultic? Ummm... occult, as in hidden, as in lacking syntax, perhaps. And "upper level witches." These would be the witches in the 7th year at Hogwarts, yes? Or maybe they are the CEO's of the Witchworld.
You know, this is the exact kind of obscurantist obfuscating bull**** that charlatans of every stripe use. They know that if they can throw enough pseudo-intellectual babblings at people, some misguided twerp who thinks big words equal knowledge will buy their twaddle. Moral of the story: if you have to use made-up jargon to befuddle the ign'ant, you really don't have much to say anyway.
By the pricking of my thumbs, something stupid this way comes.
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The quote provided is not a surprise to me. At the time when C.S. Lewis was writing his children's stories it was not out-of-the-ordinary for a well-read man to have parused "The Golden Bough" by Sir James George Frazer. I have read it in both the abridged and non-abridged versions. It is obvoius that Lewis learned much about older religions while in school, too.
He incorporated many different religious views into his books, but always put forth the idea that all these religions and peoples come back to Christianity. Somehow, he got it a little skewed - Christanity developed out of the old religions ie: Sun Worship, Fertility Gods, Seasonal deities, etc. Older religions do not always carry the same message as Christianity - but have similar veins, such as the dying god. Lewis being ever the devout Christian, he attempted to join all religions in a way which did not please me, but I won't call him a witch. Goodness knows, he was a romantic, and one can't fault him for that.
For a person to demean Lewis for attempting what Joseph Campbell did so successfully in the past 20 years is silly and even meant to mislead. Another bible-thumper trying to find new witches. It made fun reading, though.
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witches really exist?
i was not aware.
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Seriously, do you need to post something like that?
It's a bit lame.......... Well at least I learned sumthin new about this movie.
To inform u here in our country, December 13 is not the release date, it's January 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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January 8th?? Well that's just horrible. There really is a conspiracy with the release dates of this movie. 01-08-06......add the 1 and 8 and you get 9, which is an upside down 6. The date ends in 6, and there are 6 numbers in that date. That's 666, the Mark of the Beast! Plus that's a Sunday, which everyone knows is a day that mass groups of occultists gather around the world and hold blasphemous meetings that end around noon.
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quote:Originally posted by Ground Zero Jedi: January 8th?? Well that's just horrible. There really is a conspiracy with the release dates of this movie. 01-08-06......add the 1 and 8 and you get 9, which is an upside down 6. The date ends in 6, and there are 6 numbers in that date. That's 666, the Mark of the Beast! Plus that's a Sunday, which everyone knows is a day that mass groups of occultists gather around the world and hold blasphemous meetings that end around noon.
P.S. I couldn't come up with any psuedo-intellectual babbling to make this sound convincing, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
I was buying it till the Sunday bit.
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I knew that there were Christians opposed to the Lewis books, but...okay.
As a conservative evangelical Christian who attends a conservative evangelical church, I've read and reread the Narnia books, my pastor showed previews of the movie in church and encouraged everyone to go see it, preached a sermon regarding the Christian themes of redemption in the story and the church reserved two theatres for a sneak preview showing.
And, if "neophyte witches" are required to read the Narnia books, does that mean they were written with an intent to indoctrinate readers to the occult? C'mon, I understand hippies read the hobbits "weed smoking" as being marijuana when that was not Tolkein's intent at all.
*sigh Mr. Meyer has so many other wonderful things he could be doing.
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You know what, personally I think that he encouraged it because it DOES have xtian values in it. However, I think Lewis is a genious simply because he combines many conflicting beliefs, and what is amazing is that he does it peacefully. If you read reviews all around, some will claim that the movie promotes wicca/paganism/devil worship, and some will claim that it promotes xtian values. If you really step back and look at the whole picture, it combines the two peacefully and has hidden meanings throughout the whole thing. It really shows that just maybe some religions are more alike than people think....
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xtian.
that right there is a barrelfull of giggles.
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"Xtians" is usually a putdown made by pagans, satanists, atheists and so on... look at any metal forum and you´ll find the phrase a lot.
Wonderful article, it manages to get just about everything wrong. Try any biography on Lewis OR Tolkien. But a couple of small points:
Tolkien did try to make the agnostic Lewis Christian. But was severly disappointed when Lewis became Lutheran.
Tolkien did NOT belive in Middle-earth or the critters there. He wanted to create an English pre-historical mythology since he found all the tales taken from other cultures.
Catholicism is not compatible with hobbits, uruk-hai, elves, ents and so on and so forth. If anyone can prove that it does, I´ll happily convert.
Tolkien annoyed Lewis by putting down the religious allegories of the Narnia stories as too blatantly Christian in theme - the Prof was NOT a big fan of allegory. Funny how a devout Catholic would find something pagan too blatantly Christian. Might have been smoking that Old Toby that obviously is compatible with Catholicism that made him think so.
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Lol, Duke... I am a christian, and I simply use the term "xtian" because it is much faster to type. I didn't mean any offense to those who are Christian.
Ewoks, as for your question, In my opinion some catholics won't see Harry Potter because maybe the GOOD GUYS do witchraft? Witchcraft is a Pagan belief, and is TOTALLY against the church.
In the Chronicles, Aslan is supposto represent God, or Jesus in the Christian denomination, and threfore it is justifiable if he does ANY type of magic... and the white witch is meant to be the source of evil in my eyes(satan in the christian denomination) and therefore it is justifiable for HER to do witchcraft becasue Wiccans, although they AREN'T evil, are normally depicted as evil...
In harry potter EVERYONE does magic, even the hero of the story...
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I saw The Chronicles of Narnia last night. It is great. It couldn't be any better. Except maybe Aslan's voice could have been deeper. There are at least two other versions of this movie and I loved both of them but this latest one is by far the best. It cost 150 million dollars. They did great job. The acting is superb. The kids were perfect. It really tugs at the heart strings. I had to fight back the tears about 20 times. It follows the standard journey of the hero almost to the letter. We find out in the opening scene of the movie that the heroes don't have a father around. All we see is his picture and we don't know if he is alive or not but there is mystery surrounding him and he is absent as in nearly all hero stories, ie. Harry Potter, Superman, Spiderman, King Arthur, Moses, Mohammed, Daredevil, Jesus, Hercules, Luke Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker, Frodo,Sir Galahad, Electra, Neo,etc. The heroes are supposed to fulfill a prophecy of course and they go through what is called the denial of the call. That is they refuse at first to be the hero. Not me, I'm not the one, I can't do it, but of course they have a reason for answering the call. In this case their brother was captured by the White Witch. Aslan represents Jesus Christ, and also God Himself, and the White Witch represents Satan. Narnia, then, where the adventure happens, might also represent the Kingdom of God, as well as the Kingdom of Aslan. To defeat the Witch, they must join forces with Aslan, the lion God of Narnia, and fight the great battle between good and evil. Then there is the betrayal (Judas).One of the brothers(Edmund) is tempted with the enchanted Turkish Delight, and the promise of becoming a prince of Narnia:'I think I would like to make you the Prince - some day, when you bring the others to visit me.'Succumbing to temptation is a very powerful theme in the Bible. Jesus is tempted by Satan in the wilderness with promises of great power. Also Judas betrays Jesus, much as Edmund betrays his brother and sisters later in the story.Of course, Edmund is rescued from the White Witch by Aslan, and although she later claims the life of Edmund as rightfully belonging to her, Aslan offers his own life in exchange for Edmund's. This action exactly follows that of Jesus Christ who died on the cross to save mankind.They are are give gifts, also known as magical boons or articles with certain powers. Frodo was given a "cloak of invisibility" in the Rings movie. Harry was given a map that showed people's foot prints. These heroes were given a bow and arrow that doesn't miss it's mark, a power sword for the leader and a magic potion that can heal any injury. The different thing about these gifts is that they were given to them by Santa Clause. When the betrayal comes into play Aslan has to sacrifice himself . He is seen at night walking though the forest all alone and the two female heroes follow him and keep him company for a while. It's a portrayal of the Garden of Gesthemani on Jesus' night before he's crucified when he wanted the Apostles to stay awake with him but they all fall asleep. Aslan then goes to Golgotha (the Stone table) to be sacrificed for our sins. On the way up to the alter where he is to be killed he is beaten, shamed and disgraced (they even shave his mane). He's killed and left alone on the stone table. The two female heroes come and stay with him all night just like the two Mary's who stayed with Jesus. The next day he is resurrected and goes on to kick some ass. Just when things look darkest, Aslan returns to save the day, but he does so by making it the last day. It's a plot structure that has fascinated humans for thousands of years. It should come as no surprise, then, that the historical life of Christ follows that same pattern (God's son leaves his heavenly home, grows up to spread the news of spiritual redemption and, after sacrificing himself for others, dies, is resurrected and goes back to Heaven to provide hope for humanity.). It's an archetypal pattern that comes from our subconscious to reveal the ultimate example of heroics. It's a universal myth. That myth is what comes out of the collective unconscious of man . "God" is a figment of the imagination of man, and all spirituality is searching for the same unknown transcendent force from which everything came and into which everything will return. This "transcendent force" does not exist apart from humankind.
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